You Ask, I Answer: Hiring a Director of Digital Marketing? – Christopher S. Penn – Marketing Data Science Keynote Speaker

Margaret asks, “A friend of mine is looking to hire a Director of Digital Marketing, hoping to expand an existing company and their online presence/optimization/customer reach. What are some absolute musts for a job posting, and what would you consider overkill?”

Start with the outcome. What are they expected to generate? Leads? Audience? Awareness? What’s the KPI that will get them a bonus or fired? Once you know that, work backwards to determine the necessary skills that are an appropriate fit for your company. Be a good partner to the candidate – tell them the goal and ask them how they’ll achieve it. That will do more for you than an arbitrary list of skills that may or may not get the outcome you want.

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In today’s episode, Margaret asks, a friend of mine is looking to hire a Director of Digital Marketing hoping to expand an existing company and the online presence optimization customer reach.

What are some of the absolute must for a job posting? What would you consider overkill? Well, there’s a lot of stuff in there right? online presence, optimization, customer reach, with any kind of hire, with any kind of job, start with the outcome, what are they expected to generate? Like online presence is kind of an amorphous concept, right? Like, yes, we have online presence.

Well, great.

How do you measure that? What are what are the KPIs, the key performance indicators that this person will be responsible for? What will get them a bonus or what will get them fired.

That’s going to be key to making a good hire.

If you Know with clarity, what it is that this person is ultimately responsible for at the end of the day, then you can make that part of the job description, right? You say we expect you, Director to generate 2000 qualified leads per year by whatever legal means necessary, right? If you have that KPI, then it becomes much easier to figure out okay, what are the skills and whether the tools and techniques that you have available to you that would allow you to do that.

So for example, you say you’re required to generate 2000 leads per year.

And we are a company that is a salesforce.com company and we have Salesforce par dot and Salesforce Marketing Cloud and all this good stuff right.

Now, the job descriptions actually pretty clear, right? You’ve got to be able to generate leads.

You’ll have a target of you know, however many and you’ll be managing a team of three people to achieve that goal and Traditionally, in the past, the company is used email marketing and social media, whatever.

But an a really key consideration here is that if you start with the goal, if you start with the KPI, then as long as you set the parameters like this is our marketing tech stack.

You don’t have to list every single, you know, possible job to do on the job description.

Instead, you list the goal you list the tech stack and you say when you come in for an interview or when you respond to this posting, tell us how you would do this tell us how you would generate 2000 leads per year show us examples of lead generation that you’ve done in the past and that will give the hiring manager a lot of insight into Well, this is this is how this person is going to do the job.

The last director I hired the big pain point four for me and the big responsibility for the job was managing a team.

Right? managing the team well, and getting the team to perform well.

They did the the director I hired didn’t have a responsibility for lead generation because that was my job.

But the part that I desperately need help with is managing the team.

So when that job posting went up, and when the job search was going on, that was the lens through which we were focused and we’re able to make a really good hire.

If you try and throw every single thing of a job description, you know, every possible hat this person could wear.

You run into two things one, you will get a job description is very unfocused and will probably be a turn off to a lot of people because as you as David Mesa says, you know, we put a we put a little list of everything here so that it communicates clearly we are good at nothing.

And to that’s going to really bump up the cost of the candidate, right because the cat, you’re going to weed out candidates who may or may not have every single skill.

And those people who do who are qualified are going to be very expensive because you’re going to need them to do everything if you read the job description carefully.

If on the other hand, the job description is highly focused, your job is demand generation or your job is audience growth.

And that is the key priority for this position in what this position will be doing.

We all understand everybody understands that.

Yes, jobs can change over time.

positions, needs corporate priorities, those things change over time.

But if you are, and your organization is willing to commit time and money and effort to hire a full time person, whatever that person is responsible for, it’s got to be a pretty big priority.

Otherwise, you would have probably outsourced to draw hired a contractor or an agency to handle it if it was just a short term need or was not a strategic priority.

That was literally the bread and butter of the company, you hire and go through all the commensurate difficulty of hiring for the things that are the highest priority.

So what is the highest priority? Be a good partner to the candidate to like I said, ask them, How would you solve this? How will you approach this? How will you do this job? If the goal is crystal clear, you must generate 2000 leads.

Tell us how you’re going to do that.

assume you have a small budget.

assume you have not nearly as many staff as you would like, assume that you can’t change the technology stack even though that may or may not be true.

How would you within those constraints do the job and that will give you a tremendous amount of insight into the candidate, how they think how they solve problems.

The other challenge you will get with a job description.

That’s over really broad is you will get some candidates who, how do I put this nicely? They talk a good talk, but they can’t walk the walk.

And when the job description is so scattered, they can fake it in the interview and the responses.

Oh yeah, here’s my experience with this and with this and with this and with this and with this and because the job description is so broad, so broad.

It sounds like they’ve got the goods when in fact they don’t they have you know, their their knowledge is a mile wide and not centimeter deep.

If on the other hand, the job descriptions generate 2000 leads a year it becomes real clear whether somebody has the experience to do that.

Or they start throwing up red flags every year.

everywhere like, well, I would need a team of 12 to do this or my last job.

I had managed a team of 15 people and he started listening this person go well what did you You do exactly Well, I manage this and this and this like, Okay, great.

You’re You’re good manager if you can get the results.

But if there’s a if there’s a component to the job that is essential to that KPI, and it sounds like that person doesn’t have the skill to do that particular task that will come out more easily if the job descriptions highly focused rather than a broad scattered mess.

Especially if the people doing the interviewing do not have the subject matter expertise that they should in that particular task, which makes sense.

That’s what you’re hiring for.

Right? But you want to be focused so that your bs detectors work better.

When you press something, okay, well 2000 leads a year.

What’s your what is what are your first 90 days look like? What happens that first 90 days because that’s a quarter.

All right, that’s 500 leads How you going to generate 500 leads in your first 90 days.

You’ll get some interesting answers.

And you’ll very quickly get someone to realize, Ooh, that’s a tough challenge.

Or they may say, here’s here’s what we do we immediately look at everything that is in the sales pipeline is abandoned.

But we do some retargeting to immediately try and get some easy wins we, what does your email marketing program look like? When was the last how often you send out a newsletter, you don’t send out a newsletter.

Great, we’re starting one tomorrow, you start to get very clear responses.

So that’s how you tackle this, be focused about the KPIs and you will get a much easier time job with the job description and with the hiring.

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